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	<title>Comments on: Countmeout.ie resort to &#8220;black hat&#8221; tactics for the leave the Catholic Church Campaign</title>
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		<title>By: steve white</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13831</link>
		<dc:creator>steve white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aj the the majority of atheist ireland members and users were raised catholic and remain catholic in the eyes of the church and therefore you as a&#039;Roman Catholic&#039; also it must follow see them as still catholic the same goes for countmeout creators and users.

anyway aj this is  your reason 
&quot;
Agree, there are a million other things – but if there was a Muslim.ie website pointing somewhere it shouldn’t I’m sure it wouldn’t be allowed . Bit sick of catholic bashing tbh&quot;

both a crock and wrong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aj the the majority of atheist ireland members and users were raised catholic and remain catholic in the eyes of the church and therefore you as a&#8217;Roman Catholic&#8217; also it must follow see them as still catholic the same goes for countmeout creators and users.</p>
<p>anyway aj this is  your reason<br />
&#8221;<br />
Agree, there are a million other things – but if there was a Muslim.ie website pointing somewhere it shouldn’t I’m sure it wouldn’t be allowed . Bit sick of catholic bashing tbh&#8221;</p>
<p>both a crock and wrong</p>
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		<title>By: cormac</title>
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		<dc:creator>cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey aj,

One correction

&quot;You know that big image at the top of this post – the one where Count Me Out thanked Atheist Ireland? That’s kindof pointing to some atheist connection..&quot;

You seem to be referencing me as an authority on the legal status of the catholic.ie domain. I said &quot;thanks to Atheist Ireland&quot; as I presumed that they owned the URL, but this might well not be the case. It could be registered to an individual who happens to be a member of AI or another group under this person&#039;s name; I have absolutely no idea, and if it concerns you as much as it seems to then its something you&#039;ll have to look into yourself.

Incidentally, I try to thank everyone who links back to the site; we&#039;ve had links from religious and non-religious groups and I&#039;ve thanked them all personally through email or via the Twitter feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey aj,</p>
<p>One correction</p>
<p>&#8220;You know that big image at the top of this post – the one where Count Me Out thanked Atheist Ireland? That’s kindof pointing to some atheist connection..&#8221;</p>
<p>You seem to be referencing me as an authority on the legal status of the catholic.ie domain. I said &#8220;thanks to Atheist Ireland&#8221; as I presumed that they owned the URL, but this might well not be the case. It could be registered to an individual who happens to be a member of AI or another group under this person&#8217;s name; I have absolutely no idea, and if it concerns you as much as it seems to then its something you&#8217;ll have to look into yourself.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I try to thank everyone who links back to the site; we&#8217;ve had links from religious and non-religious groups and I&#8217;ve thanked them all personally through email or via the Twitter feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Falconer</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13816</link>
		<dc:creator>Falconer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your&#039;e going to need your rosary beads because your&#039;e in trouble with the catholic church limited as well now.
http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/11/tree-stump-of-limerick-tee-shirt-make-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-13812</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your&#8217;e going to need your rosary beads because your&#8217;e in trouble with the catholic church limited as well now.<br />
<a href="http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/11/tree-stump-of-limerick-tee-shirt-make-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-13812" rel="nofollow">http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/11/tree-stump-of-limerick-tee-shirt-make-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-13812</a></p>
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		<title>By: aj@lecraic</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13814</link>
		<dc:creator>aj@lecraic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginger - bullshit - I&#039;ve been quite clear - you have your view, I have mine  - end of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger &#8211; bullshit &#8211; I&#8217;ve been quite clear &#8211; you have your view, I have mine  &#8211; end of</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13813</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make up your mind aj, you say &quot;If the CMO campaign hadn’t used the re-direct, I’d be getting about my business and letting people get on and do what they want to do.&quot; and then say you&#039;re specifically concerned about the accuracy of the domain name- and the title of this piece defies you again.

Make up your mind and collect your balls, if you&#039;re offended outright, then say so and the rest of the world will leave you and your offense where it sits- It seems you started an argument without looking into it further and now you&#039;re swaying your argument depending on the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make up your mind aj, you say &#8220;If the CMO campaign hadn’t used the re-direct, I’d be getting about my business and letting people get on and do what they want to do.&#8221; and then say you&#8217;re specifically concerned about the accuracy of the domain name- and the title of this piece defies you again.</p>
<p>Make up your mind and collect your balls, if you&#8217;re offended outright, then say so and the rest of the world will leave you and your offense where it sits- It seems you started an argument without looking into it further and now you&#8217;re swaying your argument depending on the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: aj@lecraic</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13808</link>
		<dc:creator>aj@lecraic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good man Noel, back for another round. Great stuff. That&#039;s even MORE interesting as I am curious now what name the unincorporated association DID have at the time of registration.

You know that big image at the top of this post - the one where Count Me Out thanked Atheist Ireland? That&#039;s kindof pointing to some atheist connection..

by the way - I don&#039;t own or use a handbag- I use a big manly rucksack to carry all my bibles, rosary beads, holy water , crosses etc. to work every day. A handbag wouldn&#039;t carry all that stuff very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good man Noel, back for another round. Great stuff. That&#8217;s even MORE interesting as I am curious now what name the unincorporated association DID have at the time of registration.</p>
<p>You know that big image at the top of this post &#8211; the one where Count Me Out thanked Atheist Ireland? That&#8217;s kindof pointing to some atheist connection..</p>
<p>by the way &#8211; I don&#8217;t own or use a handbag- I use a big manly rucksack to carry all my bibles, rosary beads, holy water , crosses etc. to work every day. A handbag wouldn&#8217;t carry all that stuff very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Falconer</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13807</link>
		<dc:creator>Falconer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The organisation Atheist Ireland did not register the domain name catholic.ie. The domain was registered well before AI came into existence. If you actually checked before you started indignantly swinging your handbag you&#039;d have found the name is still not registered to that organisation.
http://www.domainregistry.ie/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?whois=catholic.ie&amp;Search.x=32&amp;Search.y=8



Ursula: copyright doesn not apply as long as you only use the phrase for the craic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The organisation Atheist Ireland did not register the domain name catholic.ie. The domain was registered well before AI came into existence. If you actually checked before you started indignantly swinging your handbag you&#8217;d have found the name is still not registered to that organisation.<br />
<a href="http://www.domainregistry.ie/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?whois=catholic.ie&#038;Search.x=32&#038;Search.y=8" rel="nofollow">http://www.domainregistry.ie/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?whois=catholic.ie&#038;Search.x=32&#038;Search.y=8</a></p>
<p>Ursula: copyright doesn not apply as long as you only use the phrase for the craic!</p>
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		<title>By: aj@lecraic</title>
		<link>http://www.lecraic.com/2009/07/23/countmeout-ie-resort-to-black-hat-tactics-for-the-leave-the-catholic-church-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-13806</link>
		<dc:creator>aj@lecraic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn, totally forgot the appropriate sign off on the email !

I&#039;m enjoying the to and fro - that&#039;s what it&#039;s all about - least I&#039;ve raised a valid issue re: the IEDR anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn, totally forgot the appropriate sign off on the email !</p>
<p>I&#8217;m enjoying the to and fro &#8211; that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about &#8211; least I&#8217;ve raised a valid issue re: the IEDR anyway</p>
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		<title>By: Ursula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ursula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it, just love it: Sprinkle the mention of religion onto the cake of a thought and all hackles rise. The discussion, the comments, brilliant, can&#039;t stop laughing.

And that&#039;s, of course, why you, Falconer, might wish to reconsider: AJ, aka lecraic, does provide tremendous entertainment with his blog but that does not mean that what he says always has to be funny. Which reminds me: How did you, Falconer, come by your chosen name? I am not Irish, Catholic or much else for that matter, however I do admire your use of words and have added that absolute fabulous turn  of phrase of yours &quot;whining like a parish pump crawthumper in defence of the Catholic Church&quot; to my own treasure trove of the English language (I hope copyright does not apply). 

AJ, one small point: I so wish you had signed that letter of yours with &quot;yours FAITHFULLY&quot;. Other than that be happy to run a blog that stokes a bit of intelligent discussion.

U</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it, just love it: Sprinkle the mention of religion onto the cake of a thought and all hackles rise. The discussion, the comments, brilliant, can&#8217;t stop laughing.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s, of course, why you, Falconer, might wish to reconsider: AJ, aka lecraic, does provide tremendous entertainment with his blog but that does not mean that what he says always has to be funny. Which reminds me: How did you, Falconer, come by your chosen name? I am not Irish, Catholic or much else for that matter, however I do admire your use of words and have added that absolute fabulous turn  of phrase of yours &#8220;whining like a parish pump crawthumper in defence of the Catholic Church&#8221; to my own treasure trove of the English language (I hope copyright does not apply). </p>
<p>AJ, one small point: I so wish you had signed that letter of yours with &#8220;yours FAITHFULLY&#8221;. Other than that be happy to run a blog that stokes a bit of intelligent discussion.</p>
<p>U</p>
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		<title>By: aj@lecraic</title>
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		<dc:creator>aj@lecraic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but it was atheist Ireland that made the domain application (unincorporated association) . catholic.ie doesn&#039;t seem to &quot;reflect the organisation NAME&quot; - the organisation name being atheist ireland - who registered the domain in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but it was atheist Ireland that made the domain application (unincorporated association) . catholic.ie doesn&#8217;t seem to &#8220;reflect the organisation NAME&#8221; &#8211; the organisation name being atheist ireland &#8211; who registered the domain in the first place.</p>
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